In a parallel universe where Ubuntu hadn't provided the "install alongside Windows" option (which it did about 10 years ago), I'd be writing enterprise Java on a Windows 10 machine, blissfully unaware of the existence of free software and believing that privacy is dead if Mark Zuckerberg says so.


Dear and ,

It's great to be clean and pure yourself, but sometimes you have step into the mud to pull out others who are stuck in it.

@njoseph That's how I first encountered it too. My Acer laptop couldn't run Vista, which it had been preinstalled with, so a friend took pity and set me up a dual-boot with Ubuntu. I had to flip between the two of them because of that laptop's terrible wireless adapter and drivers, but it's why I was confident enough to totally wipe my computer last week (10 years later) and install ONLY Ubuntu BB.

There are lessons like this worth learning from "embrace, extend, & extinguish," IMO

@njoseph Ubuntu's ShipIt, live ISOs and dual boot are probably the only reasons why the distro (and then all of the FOSS movement) had any chance of succeeding in the mainstream - easy installers already existed, anyway. I remember that I tried to investigate this "Linux" thing and had no idea how to try it out, then I saw Ubuntu in a computing magazine, they shipped a bunch of free CDs to me and got it to work on second attempt (first froze on X11 lol). So yes. Yes a lot.

@njoseph (keep in mind I'm talking late 2007-early 2008 when I was 10 years old and had only began to write lines of DOS batch and BASIC with no logic whatsoever)

@njoseph same thing except Slackware instead of Ubuntu, and I booted Linux straight from DOS because Windows wasn't fully a thing yet and DOS gave zero care about some program over-writing it out of memory and swapping it with another OS at runtime.

In other news, I'm old. :blobcat:

@polychrome @njoseph Similar with me, except it was Win98 by then and ZipSlack because I could run it off a 100 MB Zip Disk without having to install it.

When I started dual-booting, I was too afraid to partition my drives or install LILO so I used a boot floppy when I wanted to run Linux.

These things allowed me to dip a toe into the new system without having to commit utterly and be locked in before I was ready.


Honestly I think you are missing two important facts in your reasoning here:

1. Dual boot was possible far far before Ubuntu was a thing
2. Free Software is about freedom.

Freedom also means being free to use (and even develop!) closed source code but choosing not to do so.

Preventing others to use closed source is not free software purism. It's open source marketing.

@njoseph I hate to say this but I think you have a point

@njoseph The only time I use Windows is to package my software for it.

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