Jitsi is getting a lot of mentions here.
I wonder if people are aware of GNU Jami, a P2P solution.
Jami has end-to-end encryption while Jitsi is only encrypted during transit. The Jitsi server has your packets available in unencrypted form. If you can't trust a Jitsi server and need end-to-end encryption, Jami can be a good alternative.
@njoseph wait…Jitsi doesn't E2EE?
heck, where was that thread where somecreature recommended Matrix+Jitsi
@njoseph thanks will check it out
@njoseph ust had a quick look but from a barrier to entry side of things Jitsi has an advantage it seems. Still, Jami looks interesting, will look into it further later.
@njoseph So it seems Jami emerged from SIP... since we're talking about SIP, there is also fully e2e encrypted SIP video calling.
But I'm not sure Jami is capable of having 8 or 10 people in a call, especially if it's peer to peer, it might hit upload bandwidth limits pretty fast when scaling...
I already explained it there: https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/103792705041857399
@njoseph Did this used to be called Ring?
@njoseph Looks interesting. Has anyone got it going on OpenBSD?
@njoseph I’ve played with Jami, and it had awful quality in audio/video calls. Dropped it
@njoseph It's only one-to-one. It drains quickly battery in idle stata. It consumes a lot of BW in idle state.
@njoseph I've tried both at this point, and in my experience it was annoying/impossible to do a group call in Jami, or at least not obvious UX-wise. Which is why I've opted for self-hosting jitsi meet for now.
Was I doing something wrong, or is this somehow not completely supported?
@njoseph I tried Jami a few month ago. It consumed my monthly data plan in less than two weeks 😨
@njoseph Doesn't work out of the boxs though. Just downloaded it with a labmate, tried to message and call one another, messages didn't go through.
@njoseph That's true - but normal ppl find it too clunky - the ones I've tested with anyhow.
@njoseph Unfortunately, *this* at the moment is what I perceive one of the biggest issues ever: In my environment, people are rushing for Microsoft Teams, for different reasons. And it's difficult to recommend that *one* application that is feature-wise on par and stable and usable - instead, there's a plethora of solution that all somehow try to achieve the same, leaving people falling back to Teams again simply because they can't, at the moment, afford spending time on making a ...
@njoseph ... tooling comparison to make a more informed decision. This way, it's not just about losing people to Teams who wouldn't bother using any other tool, it's also about losing people who would like to recommend one but are unsure which one is sane and a good choice. 😐
@njoseph Have you every tried Jami IRL ?
It does not work at all for my and my family, totally unstable, unable to share messages, calls, messages are not unified between computer and phone. Spent like 20 hours last week trying to debug this and contact jami without success
@njoseph Thank you, I was not aware.
@njoseph do you know if conferences/calls are also e2e encrypted or only messages? I think calls are only TLS
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