That is why we need systematic change in parties, not just different people following the same system. If only the party is really transparent and accountable to its members, it can really uphold its values. To make that possibly, dissent and not discipline that has to be cornerstone of such a party. Something that we are experimenting with @piratesin But we have a different problem, not many step up to the challenge. Being a disciplined party worker is much more convenient.

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