@praveen not a single word on XMPP in that post, why do you put the xmpp hashtag in your toot and lure me into reading that article?!
Yes, decentralization applies to #xmpp as well. XMPP took some time to catch up to mobile use case and it is still lagging client support for many essential features in many platforms. Conversations for android has all features but most other implantations miss one or the other important features. So matrix with element available across platforms won the battle on features for now. May be xmpp will catch up soon with #snikket project which has users in mind beyond protocol.
IMHO, Matrix and Jabber have different strengths: Matrix is better for group communication or communities and Jabber is better for the typical instant messenging use case.
What I'm missing in Matrix is: `sudo apt install $matrixclient` and it just works. Element is not available on my OS (Debian), and the other clients miss one or the other important feature. nheko is not bad, but I like both Gajim and Dino better, and Profanity just rocks 🙂
"IMHO, Matrix and Jabber have different strengths: Matrix is better for group communication or communities and Jabber is better for the typical instant messenging use case."
Why is this always brought up, just because there aren't any XMPPs clients that are suited for anything else than instant messaging?
You can find instructions for installing Element on debian right there:
In fact, there are XMPP clients for other things than instant messaging, e.g. Movim and Salutatoi (Libervia). They are just less known than the IM clients.
So far, Element is not in Debian. I have the habit of using software that is in Debian. Sometimes, I even do the work to integrate programs into Debian, sometimes I'm just too lazy.
Sorry, I probably didn't make clear, what I meant with "not in Debian": There is no Element package in Debian itself. For a lot of reasons, I try to use only software that is in Debian (with very few execptions for exotic use cases on even more exotic nspawn containers). nheko and quaternion are in Debian, so that are the clients I consider relevant to me as a Debian user. I'll will try both of them, again.
I really support the approach and the project but apart from being easier to install (and trying to add a cross platform brand) it does not yet add much new things to xmpp which you can't already have with the existing components.
For android, yes, but for iOS they are adding missing features to siskin and they want to have the same user experience across platforms (features, terminology, etc). So it extends conversations features to iOS by collaborating with other projects. They also added invite based workflow to prosody. So it is much more than just rebranding. They bring much needed consistency across platforms and apps.
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